A while back I mentioned that I have Raynaud's syndrome. Essentially this is a circulation issue that causes the blood vessels in your extremities to constrict and your fingers and toes to turn white and blue when you're cold or anxious. It comes in two main flavors: primary and secondary. Primary is Raynaud's with no other underlying cause. Secondary is Raynaud's associated with some other reason -- usually autoimmune. I've told various doctors about it over the years but none have thought there was a reason to test for any other autoimmune issues. I mentioned it to Dr. Six after I miscarried (after I reacted badly to a drug they gave me after the miscarriage that is contra-indicated with Raynaud's) but she didn't think anything of it. Generally it is just a nuisance in cold months or when my hands or feet get cold and I don't really notice it.
So, what's the new twist? I'm an idiot. With Raynaud's, you have to make sure that you stay warm to prevent flare-ups. For me, I have to keep my chest warm and always wear mittens, socks, long underwear, etc. when it is even vaguely cold out. About two months ago, I participated in an activity with my students that required me to wander around barefoot for a couple of hours (note that I NEVER am barefoot or wear flip-flops). My feet were cold and numb and splotchy white, but I didn't think anything of it because, well, my feet are always cold and numb. (Stupid, stupid Rebecca.)
A few days later, I started to have a weird, sharp pain on the bottom of my big toe. It was like there was a sore, but I couldn't see anything. Over the next three weeks or so, I slowly started noticing two small purple discolorations under the surface of the skin. It was incredibly painful. A stabbing pain that would come and go. But, it would get better sometimes. And, well, I was too stupid to see someone about it. Why? Because my primary physician at this point is the doctor I went to when I was pregnant and I don't feel comfortable with him right now. And, I felt kind of dumb. So, I kept procrastinating. And, I'd think "well, if it still hurts on day x, I'll go see the doctor." And, on day x, it would be OK. So I wouldn't call. Then, two days later it would hurt again. That cycle went on for a while.
I wondered if it had something to do with my walking around barefoot. But, I thought maybe I got a weird infection or there was a tiny piece of glass in my toe or something like that. Yeah, either of those things? Go to the damn doctor. Me? Kept putting it off.
After the purple dots started to get darker and bigger, my DH was convinced it was a wart. So, foolishly, I decided to treat it that way. That wasn't a great plan. Because, now? Now I have an open sore on the bottom of my toe that won't heal.
So, Monday I finally decided to call the dermatologist and go in to get it looked at. The doctor took one look at it and my purple, splotchy, cold feet and said "This is an ulcer from lack of blood flow from your Raynaud's. It's not healing because of poor circulation to the site and there's a risk of secondary infection. If this happens again, come in immediately." (It's being treated now and should be fine -- I'm not losing a toe or anything!) He then started to ask about other symptoms and my IF and my m/c and why no one had ever done an ANA (antinuclear antibody) test on me. (Apparently primary Raynaud's is not likely to cause ulcers while secondary can if you're stupid enough to let yourself stay cold for that long.)
So he ordered an ANA test. And the results were positive and, in his words, the titer was pretty high. So, now we're doing further autoimmune tests.
Tests that I wanted done when I first miscarried. But, since it was "only one" loss, no one thought it was worth it and they said my insurance wouldn't cover it.
What will it show? No idea. Could be nothing. There is a portion of the population who just tests high for ANAs. There are myriad autoimmune diseases that it could be -- from very mild to scary but I'm going to avoid thinking about those until I have more information. There could be an IF and/or m/c component to it or it could have nothing to do with it. I haven't talked to Dr. Smiles, yet, as I'm waiting for the results of the other tests. My dermatologist was wonderful because he was incredibly sympathetic to the IF issues. He even knew Dr. Smiles and had great things to say about him.
So, anyway, there you go. Sometimes doing something really stupid can help you find something that you've been wondering about.
Wow, I've never heard of that before. I hope you get some answers soon...
ReplyDeleteI've never heard of that either. I'm glad you're finally being tested. Hopefully you'll find a simple (and easy to treat) explanation...
ReplyDeleteThis is going to sound weird, but I'm glad you found that!! Solutions are easier to get to when you know what the problem might be! good luck!
ReplyDeleteI hope these tests will deliver some answers, and Dr. Smiles may use them developing your great new plan. How is your recovery going? thinking about you a lot, Twinnie!
ReplyDeleteI can't believe no one would test you for this before. So freaking ridiculous. I'm glad you are getting more pieces to this puzzle, even though I wish it didn't have to be so uncomfortable to get them.
ReplyDeleteI am so glad you got those tests done and, those doctors that dismissed the Raynaud's as being tied to your miscarriages should be shot. Since there is a good chance you may have autoimmune problems that contribute to your miscarriage history, I wanted to tell you about the Alan E. Beer Center for Reproductive Immunology & Genetics. Dr. Beer pioneered the treatment of infertility by treating immune system issues. The Center will do long distance consults as well as the traditional in office visits. While I didn't have to go that route, I know a few people who were able to carry to term with the help of Dr. Beer and his staff. Good luck and I'm glad your toe is ok.
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Wow. Thanks for sharing this. I get white and blue achy feet in the winter also. Friends used to tease me in highschool for my 'old lady hands' and 'newborn baby toes.' I often get reddish bumps on my toes in the winter that I first attributed to athlete's foot and then to psoriasis. Yoga helps my circulation but I have never heard of Raynaud's syndrome.
ReplyDeleteHopefully these tests will lead to some answers for you and a way to incorporate them into treatment. I wish there were more reproductive immunologists working in practice with our REs!
Crazy! I hope your foot gets better quick and the tests lead to some IF answers for you. It's great that the Dr was sympathetic to your IF issues.
ReplyDeleteWow! I hope this leads to more answers very soon. Glad the sore was caught soon enough, they can get really bad.
ReplyDeleteOh wow! You're also a positive, high titer ANA girl?
ReplyDeleteDon't feel bad you found out this way. I found out after my second loss when I got testing.
How high is it if I may ask?
Definitely mention it to your RE, there are meds they can give you to help during pregnancy, especially if you have blood flow issues!
Either way HUGS.
Reading this I kept thinking - this is me, this is me - not literally with the Raynaud's (which boo! sucks btw), but the fact that I haven't been to the gyn in gasp! over a year. Not smart, not smart considering my history of cervical dysplasia. So perhaps I will just bite the bullet and call to make an appointment even though I have been avoiding it. That hour will SUCK royally because: yes I've gained some more weight, yes I'm STILL infertile, and no I still don't have any money to go the RE all the while probably holding back tears from having to see women about to pop out in the waiting room. I hope the tests come back well, and you won't have any more issues! Happy weekend!
ReplyDeleteSo glad you figured this out, this could be big.
ReplyDeleteI hope that the bloodwork comes back showing no complications that deal with the IF. Thank god, this Derm knew what he was doing and to test for it!
ReplyDeleteI really wish that doctor's would stop treating miscarriages like a cold and look into reasons why it happened after 1! So frustrating. I'm glad that you made the connection and hope the results give you what you want. Awesome that it took a dermatologist to order the test you wanted for your miscarriage. Gah!
ReplyDeleteSo bizarre! I can't believe you've never been tested for this before - so frustrating. But I'm glad you can figure some of this out during your break and you are all ready in a couple months!
ReplyDeleteWow! What a long, convoluted way to finally get some answers! I'm sorry you had to go through that.
ReplyDeletei've never heard of that syndrome..but i know all too well about auto-imune disorders/diseases and the effects they can have on fertility.
ReplyDeletei cannot believe that they didn't do that testing for you sooner -- it was only a blood test right? i myself pushed for the APS (blood clotting) testing since through self discovery found out that if you have one autoimmune disease the chances of having another are higher. i kept asking, "why didn't my general doctor or my endocrinologist ask for this test?" -- after all, aren't they the professionals?
i've come to the conclusion that we know our bodies better than anyone and unfortunately we need to push for something if we think there might be something amiss.
your dermatologist sounds like she's fantastic and to have a doctor linking what she's doing with any IF, that's excellent. sounds like you're on the right track.
and glad to hear that your foot will be okay. :)
Poor girl! Take care of yourself and STAY WARM! Get some warm, comfy, furry socks and bundle up.
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear the Dr. is testing you - it will be good to get the results and know where to go next.
Happy ICLW!
I am sorry that you are going through this! Hope that the testing provides some answers for you! Thinking of you!!
ReplyDeleteSorry about the ulcer, but you're getting answers about stuff that may or maynot be IF related. And keep warm girlie!
ReplyDeleteWhoa! I feel educated today! I'm glad you finally had the toe looked at! And that you are going to get some answers finally. Please don't ignore stuff from now on, though, or I'll have to get off my ass, track you down, and drag you to the doctor myself, you hear me?
ReplyDelete"Only one loss." Ugh. I got a similar response when I went in for a prenatal consultation between kid #1 and #2. Technically, I had one miscarriage...and then an ectopic and a chemical. The doc didn't know what to do with me.
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Ugh, I hate the only one loss thing too, I wanted to get tested, get it all cleared out, why should I have to go through more pain if it could be prevented?
ReplyDeleteIf this gives you answers, it's good that this happened and you were barefoot and stupid for a while :-). Sounds like you have a great derm.
I am new to your story and saw you were getting tested for autoimmune issues and had Raynauds. My mom has is (with a PFO) and we think I have it as well. My toes and fingers are always freezing and accompanied by purple nail beds. I also have a personal history of autoimmune issues as well as a family history and had was found to have a high level of Natural Killer Cells. Some RE's feel it plays a huge role in IF, while others don't. Just wondering if you were tested for them or not and how your RE plans on treating you if you do have an autoimmune component.
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